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Identity Politics
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November 11th, 2008

Identity Politics

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  1. Trypno

    In the end, that’s all that matters

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  4. Zerox

    I know the feeling of never really fitting into the culture. I feel straight but am Bi? I don’t know. heres to the last panal!

  5. Kitty Moufin ^.^

    Minor Rant…why is queer culture so often against bisexual men? I have always had to deal with the term ‘halfbreed’ (as in half queer – half breeder) as in “make up your mind halfbreed”. Is it any wonder most bi men are totally closeted? Bi girls don’t have this problem. They’re ‘cool’ for being bi. And since men who are fully gay often won’t touch bi men with a ten inch…whatever, I’m not even getting laid all the time.

  6. Hannah Shae

    Kitty, I know a whole bunch of guys who say their bi… In fact, it’s pretty popular to come out as bi, at least in high school right now. There are more guys that claim to be bi than girls in my experience. I have never heard anyone say anything negative about bi guys. People usually just call the girls sluts. It’s interesting that your experience is the exact opposite of mine.

  7. Ky

    I’ve seen what each of you described, Kitty, Hannah. Bisexuals are often the subjects of ridicule and distrust—either they’re indecisive, or they’re just horny swingers, or other such nonsense. Most of my male friends are bi, but then we’re not much past high school—and while none of them claimed bisexuality for popularity’s sake, it seems easier to be out as bi for our age group.

  8. Emily

    Female bisexuals have at least as much trouble in both queer and straight cultures. Among lesbians, there’s the impression that either they’re actually gay and just haven’t admitted it to themselves, or they’re only doing it to get attention from men. And both men and women tend to assume that all bi girls are swingers, or polyamorous, or other such nonsense. A huge portion of lesbians (and even other bisexuals!) are afraid or unwilling to date bisexual women because they’re convinced they’ll be jerked around or will ultimately be left for a man. And while men are often aroused by the *idea* of a bi girl, many men feel intimidated or emasculated by the reality.

    That said, I’m not entirely sure why this discussion is taking place on this comic. I wouldn’t try to label either of the depicted women as bisexual — bisexual suggests an equal attraction to both sexes, which is clearly not the case here. Seems more like a demonstration of sexual fluidity (and there’s a great book by that name that can really help make sense of things). Labels rarely provide a complete picture, anyway.

  9. Dominique

    Kitty, I disagree. As a bi girl, I get insulted with comments that we are either going through a “phase” just to appear hot to guys, or we’re just “greedy” animals. I actually haven’t heard this as much with bi guys.
    Bisexuals have the trouble of being rejected by both sides of the spectrum– we’re not gay enough or we’re too gay to be straight.
    Labels are just so frustrating.
    I agree completely with Emily.

  10. Dennette

    Kitty’s way off on this one, ever since I came out as bi YEARS ago, I still get judgmental/insulting crap from people about my sexuality as a bisexual woman, from both hetero and homo sexual people.

  11. Rosanna

    Please, Denette and Dominique I don’t think it’s a good idea to say Kitty is bad for stating his opinion… On the other hand I really don’t agree with bi-girls having it easy..
    Honestly, I’ve only come out to three friends and, though I am pretty sure more people know about it, the whole reason I haven’t told any others is because a lot of people I know are one-minded about these things.. Whether it’s make-a-choice or that you’re promiscuous, in my case it’s both nonsense… I mean, how could I be a whore if I’ve never had sex and really only kissed two or three people…
    On the other hand, I don’t think every dyke, gay-guy or straight person is scared of or ridiculing bisexuals.. It’s all just a bunch of prejudgments…
    I like almost every kind of person and it honestly isn’t the parts that make me fall for someone.. I do say I like every kind of person, but I don’t date every kind of person, because not every kind of personality makes me feel comfortable while being around them or good about myself, you know ;)
    The sort of people I love the most are those who aren’t too stuck up on their opinions but still have some opinions they won’t change for the world, yeah!!

  12. Rosanna

    P.S. especially if those they won’t change are the same as mine, haha
    And the reason I have never had sex is, because I haven’t met someone I feel comfortable enough to give myself completely to, just yet… And I was very, very insecure about myself and my body during puberty, so experimenting or curiosity just wasn’t a good enough reason ;)
    And I think I might have found someone who is good for me, though I still have to ask him how he really feels about me.. I think he likes me too. Well, at least, I hope so!!

  13. Crisjin

    To the comic – Damn. Straight. :-)

  14. Crisjin

    Also, to most of the responses about Bi’s having problems with society; welcome to the world, lol. Society wants us ALL to fit into neat little boxes, and when any of us don’t fit perfectly, it doesn’t know what to do with us. We’re guilty by association to some, we’re awesome to others, but what matters is how much we love ourselves; not arrogant Gaston loving, but honestly loving and respecting ourselves and trying not to focus (I can’t say not care because I know it still bothers me a bit) on what others think of what we are and what we do. Now I’m not Bisexual, but I have a lot of qualities from a lot of different “boxes” and due to that, I have a hard time fitting into society myself, and it sucks, but I also have some honest/true friends who I’ll keep forever :-)

    People who try to “fit the mold” of society may be happier with the shallow parts, but most of them don’t have what those who only fit their own mold do.

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